Traveller-digest      Tuesday, August 17 1999      Volume 1999 : Number 972



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The following topics are covered in this digest:

RE: Squad Leader
Re: More Ditzie
Gas Giant Skimming: Fried or Baked?
Interspecies
Re: Gas Giant Skimming: Fried or Baked?
Obscene PD Weapons (was Re:More ditzie)
Megatraveller CDs
Re: Like Andre Norton? Try Elizabeth Moon! 
Trav Cultures List
Re: Fast Food 
Re: Obscene PD Weapons (was Re:More ditzie)
[BITS] Derrick Jones please contact me
Re: Fast Food 
Re: Obscene PD Weapons (was Re:More ditzie)
[BITS] Traveller Tournaments at GenCon UK
Re: [BITS] New Traveller Adventure - The Khiidkar Incident
Bookmark Rebuild
Re: Stereotyped Gamers...
Re: Bookmark Rebuild 
RE: Stereotyped Gamers...
Where is Downport.com?
Re: Like Andre Norton? Try Elizabeth Moon!
Re: Stereotyped Gamers...

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:52:42 -0500
From: "Smart, David J (David)" <dasmart@lucent.com>
Subject: RE: Squad Leader

Ian Ferguson posted:
>
>The Roc writes:
><snipped>
>>though no-one I currently know plays Squad Leader...
><snipped>
>
>	I haven't played for the last 3 years, due to a lack of
>	willing opponents.  I do tend to think in terms of SL
>	when I do morale checks in Traveller.  Has anybody worked
>	out SL squad/support weapon/artillery/vehicle stats for
>	Traveller equipment?

Try SJG's "High Tech" supplement. Some WWII weaponry in there.
I believe the GURPS website also has a huge weapon writeup under
the Resources link (or maybe it was on a personal GURPS site).

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:57:23
From: "Douglas E. Berry" <dberry@hooked.net>
Subject: Re: More Ditzie

At 10:06 PM 8/16/99 +1100, you wrote:

>FS have upheld the Imperial tradition of robust competition, especially
>where Gridlore Technologies ("Gridlore. Maximising total cost of ownership
>whilst minimising achievement of mission objectives") and X-tek ("X-tek.
>Where 49 megajoules is considered a point defense laser") are concerned.

We object to the deliberate misstatement of our corporate slogan, which is
actually "Serving the Imperium for about.. oh, six weeks now."

Further abuses of this type will result in harsh legal action, and let me
tell, you, Dad isn't about to be shown up by some ten-year-old hotshot!
When I last saw him, he was shouting something about old age and trickery
beating youth and vigor every time.

Regards to Hengabar, hope the problems with his memory clear up before the
stockholders find out.

Cassandra Gridlore
VP for Legal Affairs, Public Relations, and Mercenary Operations
Grildore Technologies, LIC
http://www.hooked.net/~dberry/gridlore.html

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:01:08 -0500
From: "Smart, David J (David)" <dasmart@lucent.com>
Subject: Gas Giant Skimming: Fried or Baked?

Just an FYI from NASA; seems the Galileo probe is getting a little
toasted...



             Galileo Europa Mission Status
                     August 16, 1999     

     NASA's Galileo spacecraft survived an unexpected whopper 
dose of radiation -- the strongest it has experienced since its 
closest-ever approach to Jupiter in 1995 -- before completing the 
third in a series of flybys of Jupiter's moon Callisto.

     The radiation bombardment occurred as Galileo headed toward 
its Callisto encounter, when the spacecraft flew within 452,000 
kilometers (281,000 miles) of Jupiter's cloud tops at 3:59 a.m. 
Pacific Daylight Time on Thursday, August 12.  

     "We anticipated the spacecraft's star scanner would detect 
about 300 to 400 pulse counts of radiation, so imagine our 
surprise when the instruments showed Galileo had flown through 
1,400 pulse counts!" said Galileo Project Manager Jim Erickson.  
"Then again, that's why we're exploring Jupiter and its moons -- 
to discover these unusual phenomena."

     The cause of the outburst is unknown, but several factors 
may have played a role.  First, at the time the spacecraft was 
near its close approach to Jupiter and its high radiation 
environment.  Second, it was also near a "plasma sheet," 
crossing, an area brimming with charged particles trapped in a 
thin disc that rotates with Jupiter's magnetic field.  In 
addition, it took place one week after the largest heat output 
since 1986 from Jupiter's volcanic moon Io.  The Io heat output 
was measured by ground-based infrared telescopes and may coincide 
with an increase in volcanic activity.

     The radiation level endured by Galileo during this flyby was 
many times higher than the levels engineers expect the spacecraft 
will encounter during its flybys of Jupiter's volcanic moon Io in 
October and November.

     "This was a great dress rehearsal for the Io encounters," 
said Erickson.  "We've been wondering how the spacecraft might 
hold up when it gets close to Io.  This latest brush with 
radiation makes us think that the odds of survival may be fairly 
good."

     The radiation exposure did have its tense moments.  It 
appears the radiation triggered four spacecraft faults, but all 
of them were handled correctly by onboard software.  The 
radiation apparently triggered a computer reset of the non-
spinning portion of the spacecraft three times -- on Thursday, 
August 12 at 6:07 a.m. PDT, at 10:29 a.m. PDT, and at 5 p.m. PDT.  
Because the onboard tape recorder was in use during the first 
reset, the recording was disrupted temporarily.  This resulted in 
the loss of a few observations -- one from the instruments that 
study magnetic fields and charged particles and two by the near 
infrared mapping spectrometer. 

     The radiation apparently caused one other anomaly at 8:21 
a.m. PDT on August 12, when a spin detector, used as a backup 
monitor of the spacecraft's spin rate, experienced a hardware 
glitch.  Onboard fault protection software disabled the faulty 
detector.

     After Galileo passed beyond the high radiation zone and 
corrected its faults, the spacecraft went on to fly by Callisto 
at an altitude of 2,299 kilometers (1,429 miles) on Saturday, 
August 14, at 1:31 a.m. PDT.  The flyby included experiments 
involving changes in the spacecraft's signal as it passed behind 
Callisto (as seen from Earth).  During that period, Galileo's 
radio signal was weakened by Callisto's tenuous atmosphere.  By 
studying these changes, scientists can learn more about the 
structure of the atmosphere.

ObTrav:  Gas giant skimming can be more exciting if a crew must
coincide their skimming with avoiding such a charged particle
"disk" mentioned in the 4th paragraph above. Failure to do so
could result in damage equivalent to a low-level PAWS hit.

Or sensitive, unshielded equipment (like in a sickbay?) could
malfunction at an inopportune time due to exposure.

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:12:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
Subject: Interspecies

>What's the imperial, nay Traveller universe's, opinion on inter-racial
>coupling? Is it frowned upon? Regarded as degenerate? Actively practiced on
>some worlds? Has a fine collection on under-the-counter tasteful 'glossy
>slick' paged publications dedicated to its practice?
>

IMTU, the 3I doesn't care about marriage, period. It doesn't formally
recognize the state, other than as a legal contract engaged in through
local laws. It will only enforce marriage laws in so far as they are
handled by extradition procedures for breach of contract or criminal
clauses. Individual worlds vary.

Imperial law simply states that, unless becomeing a permanent resident, no
local government may punish an imperial citizen for any marriage contract
which is valid at source and being adhered to. However, permanent residence
may make the individuals subject to manditory dissolution in order to take
local citizenship.

Still IMTU, Earth: Interspecies marriage forbidden by law, which will be
enforced by the marine garrisons. Same gender, just fine. Earth is rabidly
ZPG.
Ploygamy and Polyandry, by consent of all involved.

Not too far away (forget which world, need to check the details in my
notes) is a world where same sex is forbidden (and punishable by
mutilation), but species issues never were covered by the laws, and so are
allowed to occur... provided both are members of the local religion. Non
members are forbidden to wed, too.

William F. Hostman  |  "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
interface!"
Aramis 0602 C55A364-C S kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge-
533
Mailto:aramis@gci.net http://home.gci.net/~aramis http://www.alaska.net/~mhaa
ICQ:14640742          AIM:AKAramis	ARM 1.0: 3 R H++ P+
IMTU 1.0: tc tm++ tn- t4-- tt+ to- tg-- ru+ ge 3i+ c+ jt-() au+ st- ls
pi+() ta+ he+(-) kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge- pi+

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:20:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Jackson <ajackson@molly.iii.com>
Subject: Re: Gas Giant Skimming: Fried or Baked?

Smart, David J (David) writes:
 
> ObTrav:  Gas giant skimming can be more exciting if a crew must
> coincide their skimming with avoiding such a charged particle
> "disk" mentioned in the 4th paragraph above. Failure to do so
> could result in damage equivalent to a low-level PAWS hit.

No, not really.  Maybe equivalent to a radiation hit.  Any antiship weapon in traveller would turn Galileo into shrapnel with one hit.
> 
> Or sensitive, unshielded equipment (like in a sickbay?) could
> malfunction at an inopportune time due to exposure.

Generally speaking, the most radiation-sensitive component onboard a spaceship is the crew, though random computer errors from radiation could also be a problem.

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:26:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: William Prankard <cmdrx@magicnet.net>
Subject: Obscene PD Weapons (was Re:More ditzie)

>Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:46:17 +0100
>From: "Nick Bradbeer" <nickb@ndirect.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: More Ditzie

>>and X-tek ("X-tek. Where 49 megajoules is considered a point defense
>laser") are concerned.


>49? Ahhh, ya wusses....<g>

So, a 49Mj Laser isn't good enough for yeh eh?  You want to toast bigger
and badder things at close range eh?  Okay....

Hows about this! (for GURPS:Traveller)

3750Mj Rapid fire 100ton PAW Bay TL12

RoF=1/2(gives +10 to hit)
Dmg= 5d x 1150
1/2D Range= 1hex
Max range = 3Hex
437.5 tons and 23.6Mcr

Using the G:T ship combat rules, if this is used at PD ranges there is a
+20 to hit (+10 for the RoF, +10 for PD fire)  Factor in the ships fire
control computer (another +10) add +30 to twice gunners skill and then
subtract 39.  Lets say the skill is 15.  Roll is 21 on 3d to hit a size
'0' object at PD range (gets better as biger things are thown against
it!).  Average dammage is 17,250 points.
So if you are defending your ship from kamakaze fighters or Scouts(don't
laugh, this is very possible in G:T, and very deadly!), this is the toy
for you.

I know, this may not even be enough for some of you.  I guess I'll just
have to make the obscenely hyperactive firing Meson Spinal! ;->

\\  // Commander X
 \\//  CEO X-TEK Industries of Deneb, LIC
T E K  Military & Civilan Starship Contractor
 //\\  High Energy Weapons Research
//  \\ http://www.magicnet.net/~cmdrx/xtek/xtek.htm

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:31:17 +0100
From: "Nicholas Wright" <Nick@corlecca.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Megatraveller CDs

I have six CDs of the two Empire Megatraveller Programmes "The Zhodani
Conspiracy" and "Quest for the Ancients" if anybody wants one.  These are
the real McCoy still in wrappers.

If anyone wants one reply off list and I will put one in the post to you. If
I get killed in the rush I'll see if I can get some more.

I remain etc, etc.

Nick Wright

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:40:03 -0400
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com>
Subject: Re: Like Andre Norton? Try Elizabeth Moon! 

> Greetings:
> 
> With the discussion recently about Andre Norton's Solar Queen series, I 
> thought I'd bring up Elizabeth Moon.

I read a few of her sword & sorcery kinda books several years ago & they 
turned me off to her.  <shrug>  YMMV.
 
Keven

- -- 
tc++ tm+ tn t4- to ru++ ge+ 3i c+ jt au st- ls pi+ ta+ he+ so- vi zh sy
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                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure
                                                     In Reavers' Deep

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:44:47 PDT
From: "Colin Paddock" <su_liam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Trav Cultures List

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	Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:27:55 -0700
	From: "Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella" <xrp@sierratel.com>
	Subject: Re: Stereotyped Gamers...


	Vilani Culture: I never liked the Vilani until I started reading 			the 
Trav Cultures list. Some good stuff has popped up on this list
	__________________________________

How does one get on to the Trav Cultures List

Thanks for the info,
						Colin


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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:47:22 -0700
From: "Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella" <xrp@sierratel.com>
Subject: Re: Fast Food 

> half-lethality zone

OK, I know this is probably a "real" military type term, but doesn't it
strike anyone else as, um, well, a tad oxymoronic?
Military Intelligence indeed.
BZA
////////////////////////////////////////
Akella 0609 C654474-6 S kk+ hi++ as+ va+ dr+ da+ so@ zh- vi+  A523
IMTU tc++ ?t4 ru@ 3i+(-) c+ jt au@ st- ls+ pi+ ta@ he+

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:06:40 +0100
From: "Nick Bradbeer" <nickb@ndirect.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Obscene PD Weapons (was Re:More ditzie)

>>49? Ahhh, ya wusses....<g>
>
>So, a 49Mj Laser isn't good enough for yeh eh?  You want to toast bigger
>and badder things at close range eh?  Okay....


Well, the Goalkeeper is normally enough (It'll punch Destroyer Escort
armour). Although for those marauding dreadnoughts, there's always the
Puffball (ramped up


>3750Mj Rapid fire 100ton PAW Bay TL12


Just a curiousity - how many d-tons of reactor does it take to power this
baby? (I don't own the GURPS design rules.)

Nick

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:55:54 +0100
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
Subject: [BITS] Derrick Jones please contact me

Apologies of the bandwidth waste, but this does relate to Traveller:
- ----------

Derek,

Please can you contact me as soon as possible, about some BITS material you
prepared. In addition, Andy Lilly would like to talk to you. The email
address we have for you, and your phone number appear to have changed.

Regards,

Dom


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                 BITS - British Isles Traveller Support.
 http://www.bits.org.uk/              mailto:bits@bits.org.uk
Traveller is a registered trademark of FarFuture Enterprises.
GURPS is a registered trademark of Steve Jackson Games, Inc.
BITS and CORE are trademarks of BITS UK Limited.
All rights reserved.

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:09:08 +0100
From: "Nick Bradbeer" <nickb@ndirect.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Fast Food 

>> half-lethality zone
>
>OK, I know this is probably a "real" military type term, but doesn't it
>strike anyone else as, um, well, a tad oxymoronic?
>Military Intelligence indeed.


#:-)  It does sound that way, but it doesn't really mean the area where
you're half dead. It refers to the radius at which a person has a 50/50
chance of being killed or surviving (based on the 80-joule-rule and textbook
values for exposed body area).

Nick

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:09:58 +0100
From: "Nick Bradbeer" <nickb@ndirect.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Obscene PD Weapons (was Re:More ditzie)

>>49? Ahhh, ya wusses....<g>
>
>So, a 49Mj Laser isn't good enough for yeh eh?  You want to toast bigger
>and badder things at close range eh?  Okay....


Well, the Goalkeeper is normally enough (It'll punch Destroyer Escort
armour). Although for those marauding dreadnoughts, there's always the
Puffball (ramped up Blowfish Meson Pod. Kick it out the airlock and let the
games commence).


>3750Mj Rapid fire 100ton PAW Bay TL12


Just a curiousity - how many d-tons of reactor does it take to power this
baby? (I don't own the GURPS design rules.)

Nick

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:23:02 +0100
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
Subject: [BITS] Traveller Tournaments at GenCon UK

BITS - British Isles Traveller Support
http://www.bits.org.uk/

This note is to confirm that BITS will be running three tournaments at
GenCon Uk 99.

The three tournaments are:
	1. Delta 3 Is Down (Thu, slot 6, 3-7pm)
	2. Return of the Space Dogs (Sat, slot 14, 3-7pm)
	3. Fun! (Sun, slot 17, 10am-2pm)

All the tournaments are being written with dual T4/GURPS stats, but we
haven't yet decided for certain whether we run some tables with each rule
system. Certainly we're not intending to run any one
tournament as solely GURPS or T4 unless all the players are happy with it
(or we can only find referees who know one or other system).

The RPGA have finally added the tournaments to their website (linked off
the BITS site via the Travelling page or http://rpga.ukonline.co.uk/ ) and
also included the scope to pre-book to play.

Hoping to see you there!

Dom
BITS Webmaster.

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                 BITS - British Isles Traveller Support.
 http://www.bits.org.uk/              mailto:bits@bits.org.uk
Traveller is a registered trademark of FarFuture Enterprises.
GURPS is a registered trademark of Steve Jackson Games, Inc.
BITS and CORE are trademarks of BITS UK Limited.
All rights reserved.

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:24:33 -0400
From: "Sword Worlder" <swordworlder@clinic.net>
Subject: Re: [BITS] New Traveller Adventure - The Khiidkar Incident

Will SJG be selling these new items on this side of the pond any time soon?

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:27:58 -0500
From: "Smart, David J (David)" <dasmart@lucent.com>
Subject: Bookmark Rebuild

I just wanted to thank all of you who have helped me rebuild
my Traveller bookmarks.

You all are a fine bunch of people.

Thanks again!

David

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:34:58 EDT
From: AveNelso@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stereotyped Gamers...

In a message dated 8/17/99 2:35:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
eris@sierratel.com writes:

<< 've a PhD in  Classical languages
 
 Oh, wonderful. Any thoughts on languages in the TU? I have just been reading
 about E-Prime, and was wondering about Galanglic and whatnot.
 BZA >>

    To tell the truth, I do have some.  I think that Galanglic and Vilani in 
the 3I would be more different from 2I Anglic and "Old First Empire Vilani" 
than some would realize.   There would probably be 1000 different versions of 
Vilani in the 3rd Imperium, all as different from one another as say English 
and German or Italian and French are from one another.  1100 years of lack of 
contact between worlds would make for huge differences in vocabulary and 
especially pronunciation.  (Note that on Earth  Vulgar Latin became French, 
Italian, Spanish etc.  in just a few centuries while the various communities 
were still in contact and had Church Latin as a "objective standard" to 
preserve the old speech--imagine the scope of change when speech communities 
were worlds apart).

            Dave Nelson

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:40:59 -0400
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com>
Subject: Re: Bookmark Rebuild 

> I just wanted to thank all of you who have helped me rebuild
> my Traveller bookmarks.
> 
> You all are a fine bunch of people.
> 
> Thanks again!

Any time, Dave.

Keven

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tc++ tm+ tn t4- to ru++ ge+ 3i c+ jt au st- ls pi+ ta+ he+ so- vi zh sy
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                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure
                                                     In Reavers' Deep

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:47:53 -0700
From: "Thing" <gduke@orca.esd114.wednet.edu>
Subject: RE: Stereotyped Gamers...

On Tuesday, August 17, 1999 1:35 PM
AveNelso@aol.com said,

>     To tell the truth, I do have some.  I think that Galanglic and Vilani
in
> the 3I would be more different from 2I Anglic and "Old First Empire
Vilani"
> than some would realize.

Wouldn't audio recordings and such help to mitigate the normal drift in
usage and pronunciations that would normally happen.  I would think that
worlds where technology had collapsed below the level to support this during
the long night would show a remarkable amount of change.

I was reading somewhere, a couple of weeks ago, how television and radio is
supposedly flattening out accents across the US.  It seems that in worlds
with recording & broadcasting, recorded movies, news, instructional tapes,
etc would slow down the rate of change in the verbal languages, the same way
that printing presses and dictionaries more solidified written languages.

G.D.D.
======
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels.  If a man should challenge me, I would
take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place
and kill him."  -Mark Twain

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:54:16 -0400
From: "Sword Worlder" <swordworlder@clinic.net>
Subject: Where is Downport.com?

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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www.downport.com is experiencing DNS problems related to a change of =
service providers.  We were promised that all would be resolved last =
Friday, but now we have no idea when the broken promise will be righted. =
 In the mean time, if you want to visit Traveller Downport, Freelance =
Traveller, The Traveller Trader or the sign-up sheet for the Traveller =
Webring, please try the method outlined below (if you are a Win9x user).

- ------------------------------------------------
You can fix the problem - for yourself at least - by creating a file in =
the
windows directory called HOSTS with no extension. Put the line:

207.124.43.105  www.downport.com=20

in it. This will allow your station to resolve the name to the address. =
The
host file is always checked first before checking DNS servers on the
internet.  When your address is updated on the net you can remove the =
file.

Note: If you already have a HOSTS file for some reason. Don't delete it.
Just add the line to it.
- ------------------------------------------------

Special thanks to Jon Woodland for pointing out this workaround.  I'm =
sure there is a similar solution available on other platforms.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The TRAVELLER Domain
http://www.downport.com
Colin Michael, Webslinger


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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 99 15:58:20 -0500
From: "Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>
Subject: Re: Like Andre Norton? Try Elizabeth Moon!

On 08/17/99 at 03:40 PM,  "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com> said:

>> Greetings:
>> 
>> With the discussion recently about Andre Norton's Solar Queen series, I 
>> thought I'd bring up Elizabeth Moon.

>I read a few of her sword & sorcery kinda books several years ago &
>they  turned me off to her.  <shrug>  YMMV.

Looked at one and had the same reaction...I don't really like sword &
sorcery. Maybe I should look again.

Eris


- -- 
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"Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>    using MR/2 ICE #245
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:04:24 EDT
From: AveNelso@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stereotyped Gamers...

In a message dated 8/17/99 4:48:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
gduke@orca.esd114.wednet.edu writes:

<< 
 Wouldn't audio recordings and such help to mitigate the normal drift in
 usage and pronunciations that would normally happen.  I would think that
 worlds where technology had collapsed below the level to support this during
 the long night would show a remarkable amount of change.
  >>

    Sound change is very subtle andvery often the old pronunciation is 
completely intelligble (but two changes back might not be).    Audio 
recordings would actually in some cases would accelerate drift since it would 
spread a new pronunciation much more quickly across a planet (much as mass 
media does indeed level accents across the US and has helped keep American, 
British and Australian English more or less mutually intelligble).  

    Suppose the US and Australia were on separate planets.  As long as we 
continued to trade mass media recordings, these recordings would act to level 
out some of the pronunciation changes in the respective "Englishes".  
however, if contact were lost, 200 year old recordings of Frank Sinatra 
records and presidential addresses would have little impact on the language 
as a whole.  And, say in part of America we stopped pronouncing the letter 
"B"  if it became somehow fashionable, then local recordings would facilitate 
that change across the country quite quickly, with no corresponding change in 
Australia.   

        Dave Nelson

    P.S. If you ask why one particular sound change happens and others don't, 
you're asking a good question.   Individual changes can be explained  "it's 
easier to say tithemi than thithemi"  is called dissimilation of the th, but 
there is no satisfactory catch all theory that can predict what changes will 
or will not occur.

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